Prostitution is immoral?
May 30, 2008 | 04:41PMA reader had commented on a post, basically saying that PSPs and the patronage of sites are immoral acts and are further contributing to the deterioration of society.
To which my response is: Who assigned YOU to be the moral police?
I asked a few people what acts to they consider as fundamentally immoral. They mentioned murder, rape, adultery, child abuse. I further inquired why such acts were immoral. They answered that these acts are immoral because they clearly infringe on the rights of others. In other words, there is clearly a victim in such acts.
But what about prostitution? Who is the victim in prostitution?
Is it the client? I don’t think so. He paid for a service and he received a service.
Is it the PSP? I also don’t think so. Unless coerced in the world of flesh trade, she has willingly and voluntarily chosen that way of life.
I know some moral pundits will say that the PSP is the victim because she had no choice and that poverty had forced her into that life. In that case, shouldn’t it be poverty then that should be considered immoral?
There is the stereo-typical PSP, the one that was scammed into the seedy world of prostitution, brought to the metropolitan with promises of wealth and comfort, only to discover that the bed she will lie on is not one of roses. We see this stereo-typical PSP in movies, books, TV shows, and sensationalistic news articles.
I, on the other hand, have experienced the PSPs of massage parlors, KTVs, and escorts. The great majority of them have consciously chosen that way of life. Yes, they are not proud of it. Yes, it’s a hard path to take. But it doesn’t make it immoral.
So I want to know: If one person finds prostitution immoral, what exactly makes it immoral? Please tell me who is being affected, whose rights are being violated, who is being hurt or who is being deceived.
the question we need to answer is “what made them enter prostitution?” is it greed for money?,pleasure or just forced to because of poverty..if you were in their shoes what would you do? can the moralist crusaders give them a decent job/living? all they do is too much talk no action!
Quote: So I want to know: If one person finds prostitution immoral, what exactly makes it immoral? Please tell me who is being affected, whose rights are being violated, who is being hurt or who is being deceived.
NAKAKAAWA KA NAMAN IF DI MO ALAM ANG MGA SAGOT SA TANONG MO. MASYADO KA NG NAGBABABAD SA FHM. NALALABUAN NA ANG PAGIISIP MO, ANG VALUES MO. WIDEN YOUR MIND! YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF LIFE!
immoral or not, lot’s of people are gaining from prostitution. And also lots of people are losing from it.
“any brilliant idea how to stop or at least prevent prostitution?”
i don’t think it will be effective.
The problem today is that, we already know what is wrong and immoral but we tend to justify all our actions to make it not-so-immoral. Gone are the days when our lolas words of wisdom is stronger-than-the-oak-tree. I guess its not a matter of who is immoral or who is the victim here, its a question of perceiving or seeing things or life itself. Everyone has got something to say……
Well for me it depends on their definition of Immoral… if prostitution for them is wrong or unacceptable then it is immoral else not… and for our society especially this is a christian country prostitution IS Immoral… No matter what our logic is or even if we say this is the victim and this and that… well it is still immoral in the eyes of our Lord… But if they dont believe on that and probably they would say it is moral and accepted for them… To make my point clear it depends on their belief or definition but i tell you it is not acceptable for the lord no matter what our reason is…
@chie,
Instead of resorting to ad hominem, I suggest you first answer the question.
Or maybe, you yourself don’t know the answer?
@dick,
Lets even assume they do it for greed, for money, or for pleasure…
And if that is the case, what differentiates it from an ordinary job?
@saloon,
Yes, gone are the days when our lolas words of wisdon are stronger than the oak…
It’s called progress…
For me prostitution is immoral because it violates the human rights of the women in other way around like for instance, some of them are forced to do such act to earn a living which for me is a job for lazy people. And also married customers or married clients who patronize this kind of “business” are immoral here because their faithfulness to their spouses are gone. I think that covetousness is invloved here which is an immoral act.
a very lousy question to answer in a simple manner.of course thats immoral. what first put on your mind when your in the act? conscience right? that you know your are doing is wrong..who among here proud to say he went to prostitue and satified his sexual urge??o com’ on men!!
Immorality is based on an action of an individual. Poverty cant be immoral.
There are what you call inherently good, bad and neutral.
If it is neutral it either becomes good or bad depending on the circumstances.
So in this case it is about SEX.
Sex with your wife is moral.
Sex with your PSP aside from your wife is immoral based on your religion.
Sex with a PSP becomes immoral based on the fact that in the Catholic religion you dont engage in it outside of marriage.
This is on the premise that the body is the temple of the soul and it should be respected.
prostitution in these times has evolved. gone are the days where many PSP’s do it for poverty.
also, immorality has different meanings in different societies and with the continuing march of progress, the immorality of prostitution has become hazy.
when is prostitution immoral ? as buwayahman stated above, when she or he has been coerced into it. but that is the only real distinction of immorality in prostitution. in my opinion, prostitution is not immoral because in all intents and purposes, you are not even violating anyone privacy, however, societies that has not grown past the shell of ignorance will deem it immoral.
if using one’s body as an instrument to gaining money is immoral, then dancers, bodybuilders, and their likes should be immoral as well.
I think that the only thing that creates the stigma of immorality is the fact that it’s illegal and because its not regulated, its an open source for STDs.
To me its a profession, a chosen path of life. It should be legalized, regulated and controled.
Oh you have a topic here that provokes judgemental thoughts/reasoning/emotions of everyone.
The viewpoints expressed here illustrates/reflects or paints what is in the mind/emotions of a lot of people.
Now I remember the occasion when a prosti(?)(adulterous woman) was about to be stoned to death having been caught red handed by the elders. Nobody cast or stoned her, would anyone dare to condemed the Prosti? Well. . to make a judgement wheteher it is immoral is easy for everyone . . condemming it is another story. 0920-5186701 is my cp# jas text me for whatever thoughts you may have.
Oh, my…. this topic is like cofee to hypocrites; it wakes them all up.
Prostitution is the oldest proffesion in the history of man ( no phun intended). Many here who like to judge those who participates or subscribe to prostitution are the very same weekend christians that lights candels , prays on their knees and owns many different kinds of rosary. It’s kinna funny that the man they try to emmulate (the Lord Christ) befrended a prostitute and ask His believers never to judge any one.
If these aint HYPOCRACY …I dont know what is?
do you openly tell your parents, relatives, wife or other loved ones that you engage in prostitution? i dont think so.
is it ok for others you know or love see you engage in prostitution? again, i dont think so.
now, if you were seen planting a tree, going to church, working out in a gym, playing with your kid.. etc.. would that be ok?
i think we all the know the answer.
but again, dont be too haste to answer, we also have to consider the culture or accepted norm.
i’ve always wondered why kings in the bible have so many wives?
is it ok for them to engage in sex other than their 1st wives? but what if you are a peasant? is this double standard? hmmm..
Wow! What a sensitive topic…This will just be an endless discussion. There are no right or wrong answers. It all boils down to one’s personal belief of what is moral or otherwise.
I have just have a couple of concerns, though…
Why do people who pay for the services of prostitutes keep this practice a secret?
If I ask a person if he/she drinks or smokes…I would get a straight answer…”Yes, I smoke.”, “No, I don’t drink”…etc…
But if I ask a person, if he/she pays for sex…More often than not, I would get a lie…
Is it because almost all societies dictate that the practice is immoral? There has to be a solid basis for most societies to think this way, especially if this has been the norm for hundreds/thousands of years.
We can even take societies away and just focus on the individual…People have this innate notion of what is good and bad. This is what makes humans different from animals.
Whatever people do…there is this ongoing mental/emotional/psychological battle of good vs. bad inside every single person…
So, it does not matter what other people think…deep down inside, the individual already knows the answer to the question…
Just my thoughts…help me understand…:)
for those who are saying that we already know the answer, did you pause to think of what would it look like if seen in a different angle? try looking at it in all possible views, from a biblical perspective to a personal perspective or from a moralist’s view to a thinker’s view to a realist’s view. the answer we already “know” is not enough to satiate that.
To those who say that the bible is our source of morality, then by that nature, it should be moral to commit genocide and rape the women of other tribes.
@milo01,
“do you openly tell your parents, relatives, wife or other loved ones that you engage in prostitution? i dont think so.”
My father knows. My brothers know. My close friends know.
Loved ones and wives are a different matter, especially if you promised fidelity to them. Then it is not the act of visiting a prostitute that is wrong, it is the fact that you are lying to them.
“is it ok for others you know or love see you engage in prostitution? again, i dont think so.”
Again, my friends know. Even some of my FUBUs know.
The mistake that many are committing here is that they are viewing the world only from their point-of-view. Open your minds and try to see it from the opposite side. It can be an enlightening experience.
@louiejohn,
” what first put on your mind when your in the act? conscience right? that you know your are doing is wrong”
Uhmm….no. I dont think that paying a woman to have consensual sex is wrong.
“..who among here proud to say he went to prostitue and satified his sexual urge??o com’ on men!”
Uhmmm….me?
what’s wrong with prostitution, what’s so immoral about it? Please let us all cut this crap of double standard! Prostitution per se is an industry, and service and everyone profits from it. The job’s quite simple, and the prostitute enjoys while earning, they only need to remove their clothes, lie down a bit, doggy or standing, a bit of sweat and then reach orgasm at the same time. It’s a great job, being paid to enjoy sex.Am I correct?
>> do you openly tell your parents, relatives, wife or other loved ones that you engage in prostitution? i dont think so.
Do you openly tell your parents, relatives, wife or other loved ones that you masturbate? Most likely not. Just because you keep some things private doesn’t mean they’re immoral.
Prostitution is just a commercialization of sex, alam mo nman cguro un dba?
the right question must be “is prostitution can harm you?”, and the right answer for that is YES of course.. obviously alam mo nman cguro na sobrang daming nawawasak na pamilya just because of prostitution, kahit na sabihin mo pang hindi nman kasalanan ng mga prostitutes na maakit sa kanila ang customers at trabaho lang.. namimilosopo ka na kung ganun, why? because prostitutes are one of the tools na ginagamit ng demonyo para wasakin or kung d nman tumamlay ang relationship ng family. hindi ko nman cnasabing demonyo ang mga prostitutes or ang namamahala sa kanila but logically nagiging cause yan ng sobrang pagka addict sa Sex which is wrong, it can cause lots of physical, mental, spiritual, and emotional problems. Any kind of addiction is bad Yes..Sex is Good! but it depends prin… pra din yang drugs, or even wine yea masarap but pag sobra eh nakasasama kung ibabalance mo, at titiyakin mong safe well I think its OK but pag cnabing PROSTITUTION, hehe syempre you engage in alot of sex, sex sex sex puro nlang sex!
yes, prostitution is not immoral..please..get all your mothers, wives, sisters and daughters into the business..they don’t need to be educated that way since they’re women, got all the training they need to get the job done, say goodbye to schools and colleges..i’m a regular customer, please give me your mom’s contact number..
oh yeah, forget about that bible or religion or conscience crap..bring me your daugthers instead, in any case, society’s ignorance has deemed its immorality on the business right? there’s nothing to be ashamed of, please spread your daughters’ legs apart and im sure, they WILL get compensated..cheers!
You made two points to counter the reader:
1) Who dictates moral standards. Obviously, it is not the reader with whom you are disagreeing. I guess that leaves “nobody” has any right to say what is right and what is wrong, including you and those whom you referred as using the argument “non-infringement of the right of others.”
2) You seem to agree with this “non-infringement of the right of others” argument, though you ended up with a question. You did not oppose it, but mentioning it without countering it seems to me that you are proposing it. You eliminated one position (that of the reader whom you are opposing), but you did not give yours.
I think it is your burden to justify the grounds for “non-infringement of the right of others.” Who says that this should be the basis for morality?
Here is my bottomline so that in a way, I am answering your question. Indeed, every person has the right to choose his moral standard, regardless of the validity of the moral standard that person chooses. However, you seem to be looking for some objective moral standard–a standard that is true for all regardless of what one thinks–rather than a subjective moral standard. If you are proposing a subjective moral standard, you do not have any ground to say that the reader is incorrect in saying that prostitution is immoral, for the simple reason that his /her position is only as good as yours. If morality is subjective, all opinion becomes equal.
Naturalist philosophy admits that moral standards are mere inventions of humans for his survival, but they are not real and obligatory. Therefore, it leaves us with one choice: there is only one source of objective moral standards–God. If you don’t believe He is real or exists, then your question “what exactly makes it immoral?” is a total nonsense, since morality is in reality non-existent. You must believe that morality is objective to make your question valid and answerable.
Catholics (or Christians, etc.) are lucky to have this “moral delima” or how else can we enjoy forbidden pleasures without that “guilt” afterwards? I find it interesting that those people who are actually so vocal or overzealous about morality eventually find themselves in very embarassing situations. But lets forgive them, they’re only human just like us though it takes them awhile to admit it.
yall qoute bout what,how,…etc on prostitution. some agreed, some may not. but what is importnt is.dnt let poverty put prostitution as an answer. but the principle,value, dgnity in lyf.to accept who and wer we are.dnt blame others if u being a prostitute or not prostitute.reflect ur own,not unto others.evrythng start within our own self,greedeness…. bcoz… even we thnk dat prostitution is da only thng in dis world to be end-up to just bcoz poverty.then we will only think dat prostitution is just da only salution.if u sell it,4 sure sumbdy&even evrybody will buy it.will u???
Another one to say, a very good discussion here. Haay! As what jim says, it depends on what you look at it. But for me, the reality here is your conscience. This is the thing God put in our hearts, unless you hardened your heart you won’t listen to your conscience of course. But like me (as in me, which I am quite sensitive), I consider thing, a habit, a deed “immoral” because there’s a guilt that I feel. That’s all…
Cheers po!
well, of course it’s immoral…plain and simple but, this kind of profession has been around since the dawn of mankind and even when our lord jesus christ was born. But, think about it….why did it last this long….the answer is…because, there’s a need for it…Not a honest way of making a living but, at least you are not stealing something from anybody. Plus, it’s uncivilized to think that i’m going to have sex with my wife only. Cmon, it’s the twentieth century already and we should all have an open mind about this things…let’s live our life to the fullest as long as we dont step or take advantage of somebody…to tell you guy’s the truth.. i always take good care of every girl that i go to bed with….i make sure that they get their first before i do….it’s just me…